hi alan just thought ill let you now that i have got a mini donner i will put some pictures on so you can have a look i got 1 for free in the end a mini copper look a like with a 1300 mg engine on a e reg how luck was that wish i could find 1 of them every day thanks for offering me a sub frame anyway http://photobucket.com/dave_060 so if you need any parts let me now as some how ive ended up with a mini and 2 other sub frames 1 with disc set up and 1 with drum and a 1000cc engine and hope fully by the end of the week ill end up with another mini