Over heating
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Mini Mad Max
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Yup, an oil cooler, upgraded radiator and an electric fan is as much as you can do with keeping the cooling in the engine bay. To eradicate the problems once and for all, a front mounted radiator seems to be the way to go!
robcoles
Member
Well I got home from work & decided to take a look to see what damage has been caused from overheating.
Checked oil 1st and no sign of water looking at filler cap & dipstick.
Removed filler cap from radiator and don't look like there is oil in the water so started buggy and lots of white smoke from oil filler cap and exaust ........ Ummmm could head gasket be blown without seeing the usual signs?
Also thought I'd check thermostat to see if it was opening but there wasn't one ...... Someone had removed it.
Checked oil 1st and no sign of water looking at filler cap & dipstick.
Removed filler cap from radiator and don't look like there is oil in the water so started buggy and lots of white smoke from oil filler cap and exaust ........ Ummmm could head gasket be blown without seeing the usual signs?
Also thought I'd check thermostat to see if it was opening but there wasn't one ...... Someone had removed it.
Me thinks he had cooling problems before blew the gasket & forgot to mention it, so choices, take head off, get it checked, new gasket cross fingers & sort out cooling. Remove engine sell on Fleecebay as blown head gasket or forget to mention it (frowning face), replace engine with a standard 1275 gay series. Remove engine, change subframe replace with 1.1, 1.4, 1.6 or 1.8 K series so many choices.
250buggys
Well-known member
As you bought it through ebay I would contact seller to sort out some money back to cover costs, new engine etc
Auction stated Buggy was in "ex. condition ready to drive" I think not as described
link again
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181694119317? ... 26_rdc%3D1
Auction stated Buggy was in "ex. condition ready to drive" I think not as described
link again
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181694119317? ... 26_rdc%3D1
Mini Mad Max
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robcoles":z3yrunb8 said:
You need one of those thermostat blanking sleeves if you want to run the engine like it has a thermostat that's always open. I have no way to bi-pass the water when closed so I have ditched a thermostat for one of said sleeves. I did try it for a day without a thermostat at all, This apparently causes all kinds of cavitation issues as you get a big pressure drop in the thermostat housing or something
Max
Radar
Member
save yourself a lot of trouble move to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oymyakon in Russia
with an average , thats AVERAGE !!!! all year round temp of MINUS - 50 .C fecking gulp !
no overheating issues there but wear a balaclava won't you
Radar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oymyakon in Russia
with an average , thats AVERAGE !!!! all year round temp of MINUS - 50 .C fecking gulp !
no overheating issues there but wear a balaclava won't you
Radar
Radar
Member
dont worry Rob even rear mounted rads such as yours can be made to run reasonably normal with the various measures listed in the cooling section of the forum I myself had the very same issue as you when I picked up my Buggy from Bristol and had to drive it to Newcstle upon tyne with an overnight stay near chester read all about it on the forum under my name
Its a hassle but fixable with a bit of effort
Radar
Its a hassle but fixable with a bit of effort
Radar
Danny
Administrator
Mg midget fan I think it was that sucks through the radiator and then with a fan on the other side pushing it the same way it stays coool
Minis were set up to blow air through the rad and out the wing but buggies have very little air flow round the rad and so this just does not work....
The mechanical did all the hard work at high revs while the eleccy fan kept it cool in traffic
that sucks through the radiator and then with a fan on the other side pushing it the same way it stays coool Minis were set up to blow air through the rad and out the wing but buggies have very little air flow round the rad and so this just does not work....
The mechanical did all the hard work at high revs while the eleccy fan kept it cool in traffic
robcoles
Member
So is the mechanical fan a blow or suck ...... If I was to leave that fan as is and put electric fan on outside of rad what would I look at getting & can they be purchased off the shelf or do I need to buy on line?
Or would it be better to put electric fan both sides and do away with mechanical fan.
Or would it be better to put electric fan both sides and do away with mechanical fan.
The standard Mini fan pushes the air from around the engine through the radiator to the outside of the buggy, what Danny was suggesting is getting a Midget fan which pulls the air from the outside of the buggy into the engine bay, then supplementary adding an electric fan on the outside of the radiator which then pushes the air through the radiator into the engine bay as well.
When I had Mary I tried all sorts of things to try to keep her cool, I tried pushing, pulling, mechanical, electrical, scopes, it all boiled (no pun intended) down to being able to keep it reasonably cool when running but as soon as you got to a junction or slow traffic it would get too hot, hence why I went with a front mounted radiator.
However Steve has a 'normal' set-up standard Mini radiator along with a standard Mini push fan, all he has is a Metro electric fan on the outside which helps pull the air through when he's pushing on or slowing down at junctions. It is one of these, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-Metro-1 ... 540a0c7e4f I have 2 sat in the workshop if you want 1/2 sending for postage cost.
When I had Mary I tried all sorts of things to try to keep her cool, I tried pushing, pulling, mechanical, electrical, scopes, it all boiled (no pun intended) down to being able to keep it reasonably cool when running but as soon as you got to a junction or slow traffic it would get too hot, hence why I went with a front mounted radiator.
However Steve has a 'normal' set-up standard Mini radiator along with a standard Mini push fan, all he has is a Metro electric fan on the outside which helps pull the air through when he's pushing on or slowing down at junctions. It is one of these, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-Metro-1 ... 540a0c7e4f I have 2 sat in the workshop if you want 1/2 sending for postage cost.